Climate change...


"Every site is different. That's ecology. You can't just have a blanket approach. You need to consider how wet a site can be."

But Natural England can't police a variable approach. It's like the fixed date slurry spreading ban, doesn't matter if it's wet when the season opens as long as the date's rightBanghead
 
Some of the antis like to call it 'peat burning' which is the exact opposite of what they do in small controlled burns in winter.
It's quite shocking how vociferous and nasty some who live locally are about the controlled burning. Nobody likes smoke for an hour or two but this year reminds them its far worse having smoke for weeks and burning all peat out in summer.
Natural England think it should be a natural wetland without explaining how exposed hilltops are going to be made wet in an area has only had 200mm of rain this year so far - it's like they never visited an area like NYMoors which have almost no drained areas. but lets apply blanket rules same as NW Scotland or North Pennines - they are clueless
 
but lets apply blanket rules
It's just keeping people in jobs. Take the protection of badgers for example, everyone would agree that badger baiting should be banned but controlling the odd problem or sick animal is also banned. The NVZ rules I previously mentioned, go by the calendar because that can be controlled. Hedgecutting, not before 1st Sep, again it's all about control by people that haven't got a clue.
No one wants to wipe badgers of the face of the earth, no one wants to spread slurry on waterlogged ground or destroy nesting birds but the common sense of the people doing it isn't good enough
 
It's just keeping people in jobs. Take the protection of badgers for example, everyone would agree that badger baiting should be banned but controlling the odd problem or sick animal is also banned. The NVZ rules I previously mentioned, go by the calendar because that can be controlled. Hedgecutting, not before 1st Sep, again it's all about control by people that haven't got a clue.
No one wants to wipe badgers of the face of the earth, no one wants to spread slurry on waterlogged ground or destroy nesting birds but the common sense of the people doing it isn't good enough
I will just add that Drainage Boards have never adhered to any hedgecutting ban because they didn't draw any farm payment which could be withheld. In other words they can't be controlled so it's not about the wildlife then? Not sure how they go on now that hedge rules are law, probably to big/well connected to prosecute.

Red Tractor is another "controller". They can't implement whole life assurance for livestock (cattle) as all the small 20-30 cow farmers would retire or not join anyway. This would stop the supply to the big finishers who would then drop RT. Imported grain can't be RT but they won't ban it's use as the country would starve. The whole thing is about squeezing the most control, and money, out of the system without breaking it
 
He must have been taken over by aliens, or is he trying to stay right side of Trump.
He's dead right - far too much has been poured into this nonsense to the detriment of policies which would do good for people and the natural world. A particular problem which is actually solvable is plastic waste, in particular the huge amounts ending up in the sea somehow,
Most of the greens can think of nothing else but their imagined climate armageddon. There's some extraordinary doomsday cultists out there who ought to know better.
Because that's all it is, the latest version of the old favorite about how god will punish everyone who appears to be enjoying life too much.


Bill Gates said:
Climate change is not going to wipe out humanity, he argued, and past efforts that strive for achieving zero carbon emissions have made real progress. But Gates said that past investments fighting climate change have been misplaced, and too much good money has been put into expensive and questionable efforts.
 
He must have been taken over by aliens, or is he trying to stay right side of Trump.
He's dead right - far too much has been poured into this nonsense to the detriment of policies which would do good for people and the natural world. A particular problem which is actually solvable is plastic waste, in particular the huge amounts ending up in the sea somehow,
Most of the greens can think of nothing else but their imagined climate armageddon. There's some extraordinary doomsday cultists out there who ought to know better.
Because that's all it is, the latest version of the old favorite about how god will punish everyone who appears to be enjoying life too much.

He’s probably acquired so much land now that ‘defeating hunger’ has shifted up his list of priorities…🙄
 

Article in the Farmers weekly sent to me by a friend. Has the penny started to drop about blaming livestock for climate change?​



Lucky escape’ as government shelves COP30 methane pledge​


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The government has quietly shelved proposals to announce a UK-specific pledge at the COP30 climate summit to cut methane emissions from livestock by 30% by 2030, Farmers Weekly can reveal.
Andrew Loftus, chairman of the Beef and Lamb Environment Roadmap, a cross-sector group supporting the industry’s steps towards net zero, said the move would have been a “disaster” without a change to the way emissions are measured, and would likely have required a 30% cut in total ruminant numbers.
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The plan would have built on a commitment made by the UK in 2022 – which still stands – to work with other countries to reduce global methane emissions by 30% in the same timeframe.


Both Mr Loftus and Paul Tompkins, chairman of the NFU dairy board, said they had been made aware of the proposals, with Mr Tompkins saying the government had “given every indication” that it would press ahead.
But the Department for Energy Security and Net Zero told Farmers Weekly this week there were no plans for any methane announcements at COP30 in Brazil later this month.
“This is a lucky escape, for the time being,” said Mr Loftus.
“We need to keep a very close eye on this. Defra has been taken to court twice under the climate change acts and will be looking for ways to avoid this happening again.



“Cutting livestock numbers is a crude and counterproductive solution, but one many campaigners are pushing for.”
The ditching of the plan comes shortly after New Zealand reduced its national target to cut methane emissions by 2050 on the basis that it was being incorrectly measured.

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Because of its short lifespan of 12 years, methane warms the planet differently from long-lived gases such as carbon dioxide, so current metrics overstate its impact on climate change.
Farming groups are hoping that the precedent set by New Zealand will push the UK government to take a similar “split-gas” approach to measuring emissions.


Mr Loftus said the Climate Change Committee (CCC), which advises the UK government, had made some progress in this area and used this metric in its latest carbon budget.
But he warned the CCC could not make the “bold” decision to move to this approach without political support, and that was lacking.
“The environmental lobby, the non-governmental organisations, have significant influence in Defra and over Labour ministers, and they are not for moving,” he said.
“They are wedded to the idea that we must reduce livestock numbers, in some cases very significantly.”


Mr Tompkins pointed out that the international reporting mechanisms for greenhouse gas emissions were never designed to influence policy in the way they do.
“The focus on methane remains, but this does give us room to discuss warming metrics and means of reduction,” he said.
“I think this is a holding pattern we need to use to get our own initiatives into play.”
He suggested these initiatives should include improved genetics, improved feed conversion and utilising grass, which all improve farm efficiency as well as reducing methane emissions.

UK farm leaders join global call for fairer methane accounting​

Farm organisations from 14 countries, including the UK, Ireland, New Zealand, the US and Australia, have united to urge the UN to adopt a split-gas approach to measuring greenhouse gas emissions.
UK signatories to a joint statement calling for the change include the NFU, the National Sheep Association, Quality Meat Scotland and the British Meat Processors Association.
The statement says the standard GWP100 metric used by the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change treats methane the same as long-lived gases such as carbon dioxide and nitrous oxide, even though methane breaks down in only about 12 years and behaves differently in the atmosphere.
“Using a single carbon dioxide equivalent figure distorts the science and unfairly penalises livestock farmers,” the statement adds.
“A split-gas approach would reflect reality and support more effective climate policies without undermining food security.”
Farming groups claim the switch would give a fairer picture of agriculture’s true contribution to climate change and help avoid policies that simply target livestock numbers.
Uruguay has already adopted this method in its national targets, and the UK signatories want the Westminster government to follow suit.
 
I know it's only me and I'm no that brite butt that level of retardedness brings that aspekt of the unUnited Nations into question.
If they deem that to bee an acceptable methodology of operation or logic then how?flawed are all the other UN policies and proceedures???
Equally does that invalidate said meeting and does that make those who participate complicit and bring their reputation into disrepute????
Equally by the same token any politician not going because they believe the UN has questionable policies or motivation, then should they be given due credit.
 
One wonders if all the energy and resources at every level from faked protest to political bureaucracy
and prostitution from "climate change" was removed in its entirity then would the world be saved???
 
Random thought but is COP (out)30 and G20 nothing more than a pre Christmas jolly for politicians and like minded people to do their overseas Christmas shopping???
That said Starmer and Milliband looked like complete "cockwombles".



Which isn't really fair to cock's/roosters or Wombles, now is it???
 
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